Raaf: The definitive post on INNER GAME

A couple people wanted me to write this up, so here it is.



Table of Contents

-My story
-Figure out who you are
-Figure out what kind of value you need to provide
-There are no problems, only opportunities
-No more negativity
-Avoid negative language
-Have FUN
-Have a large support group
-Stop caring what people think of you
-Never react emotionally to anything
-Eliminate all sense of entitlement that you have
-Lower your standards
-Stop coming to bullshit conclusions
-Your homework




My Story


If you don’t care about my story, then skip this section.

I discovered mASF when I was 19. I’m 22 now. So it’s been a little over three years for me. At the time, I was a virgin and had never even kissed a girl. I didn’t makeout with my first girl until I was a sophomore in college.

Make a long story short, I lost my virginity at age 20 and it was a HUGE weight that was lifted off of my shoulder.

When I first discovered ASF, I really had no concept of how clueless I actually was when it comes to women. I always considered myself to have a good personality and that I was fun to be around. I’m sure lots of people see themselves this way.

The reality though is that my personality was not very good. Take a look around your reality right now. Got a lot of friends? Got any women in your life? If not, then either your personality isn’t where it should be or you don’t actively try and network well enough.

I was always a negative person, a pessimist. Some of these people consider themselves “realists” but it doesn’t really matter what you call it, because the reality is that if you want to be successful in life and with women, you need to surpress all the urges that you have to be negative or complain about anything. It’s just a fucking downer. Nobody likes being around people like that. If you are one of these people, keep reading.

Ever since I was young, I always thought that I should have been better with women. My personality was a bit above average and my looks are average, yet for some reason I saw guys getting women that I considered less deserving than I was.

What I never realized about myself was that I was a geek. I was just a much cooler geek than most geeks. I used to love to play video games and play with THINGS. I still do these things occassionally, but to be totally honest, they now bore me. The reason is that they are nowhere near as fun as interacting with new people. If you are one of these people, you need to shift your interest from THINGS to PEOPLE.

When you get good with women and people in general, conversations become lots of fun. It can be a real adrenaline rush that cannot be rivaled by any video game.

After I lost my virginity, I went through periods of loving ASF and then convincing myself that ASF was all bullshit. If you are a beginner, resist this temptation. The theories on this website are VERY real. What is making it not work is your EXECUTION of them, NOT the ideas.

The rest of my story is largely unwritten. After losing my virginity, I continued to have sporadic successes with women, but I never wanted to lower my standards because I thought that I deserved better women. If I had lowered my standards years ago, I would have gotten much better much quicker, and I’ll explain why later in this post.

I was hooking up with a few girls a year when I was twenty and twenty one. Certainly nothing to brag about.

When I hit 22, I successfully hooked up with more girls in a year (and still going by the way) then I had for the rest of my entire life. In the last month and a half, I have been with 9 new girls or so. All of a sudden everything has gotten ridiculously easy for me.

Let me explain how I got there and how you can get there as quickly as possible while avoiding all the mistakes that costed me lots of time and frustration.

WARNING!

This process will NOT be easy for most of you! It took me a few years to transform myself from a very large loser into a massive stud. Where it all begins is inner game. Without it, you are GARBAGE at PU, I don’t care what anybody says.



STEP #1

Figure out who you are. And no, I don’t mean thinking abstractly about who you are. Take a look at your life and ask yourself if you are where you want to be, but more importantly if you are GETTING where you want to be (i.e. are you having a string of successes that are slowly leading you to where you ideally want to be?).

Figure out what kind of person you are. Are you a geek? Be honest with yourself. Get feedback from the people in your life. Find out WHY people are friends with you. If they are friends with you, there must be some value that you provide to them.

Be willing to accept the fact that you might only be their friend because they are DESPERATE for friends. It’s a reality that you need to be aware of.

Once you have roughly figured out who you are and what value you provide to people, you are ready for step #2.


STEP #2

Figure out what kind of value you WANT to provide to people (and also what kind of value you NEED to provide to some people). This isn’t as difficult as it sounds. All you need to PU some girls is to have a high SEXUAL value to her. You need to be a man that turns her on and leads her to a place where the two of you can have sex.

Of course not all girls are like this. Some require more than just a high sexual value.

Think about what kind of value you would need to provide to guys to make them want to be your friend.

Some examples:

If you want to be friends with a depressed person (you shouldn’t want this btw), then the value you need to provide to them is to be non-judgemental and understanding. You need to listen to their problems. Being able to cheer them up would help too.

If you want to be friends with AFC’s, then you could provide social value and opportunities for them to get laid. You could invite them to parties that you host and invite them to your female friends.

If you want to be friends with HIGH VALUE people like PUA’s and quality women, then you typically need to be high value enough yourself that they can respect you. If you find a nice PUA who likes your attitude and doesn’t mind having an apprentice, then you might get lucky and get to hang out with him.

The bottom line is that you need to figure out what type of value that you need to provide for people, and then actively work on developing that part of your personality until you are a person that naturally radiates those qualities.

Read that last sentence again.


How to accomplish this is what the rest of this post is all about.



THE GOLDEN RULE: THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS, ONLY OPPORTUNITIES! (explanation below)



RULE #1

NO NEGATIVITY, EVER AGAIN FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.


Negativity has a way of poisoning the way you THINK. It’s roots travel directly into your brain. If you think ANYTHING negative throughout the course of the day, then you are not yet where you need to be to be a successful PUA.

Most people do not think that they are negative people. It has become such a large part of who they are that they literally don’t even NOTICE that they are being negative.


Here is how I want you to eliminate negativity in your life:


Carry a small notepad around with you everywhere you go. Anytime you have ANY type of negative thought, write it down.

THEN, think of a way that you can mentally re-frame this thought into a positive or atleast a neutral thought.


Some examples of little annoyances that can piss people off and fuck your state up:


Problem: You drive up to the gas station, get out of the car, try and pump your gas and realize that the pump isn’t working.

Solution: Resist all temptation to get aggravated and drive up to the next pump.


Problem: The cashier at the supermarket is slow as hell and is taking forever.
Solution: Go in someone else’s line or just suck it up. DON’T start thinking negatively. Think about something else, start chatting to the person next to you, or do something to take your mind off of it.


And there are tons of other examples. But my point is that you don’t need to be unrealistic on HOW you reframe problems. You don’t even HAVE to reframe them into something positive. Notice in the above examples, I didn’t reframe anything, I just simply avoided the problem, because it is something that is MENIAL….and therefore, NOT WORTH MY EFFORT to get pissed off about.



RULE #2

AVOID NEGATIVE LANGUAGE


Language is a very powerful thing. Notice how I talked about “problems” in the last section. That is an example of negative language. The very existence of the word suggests that something is wrong with the situation.

Avoid using language like this. Every problem in life is actually an OPPORTUNITY in disguise.

There are many subsets of this, but consider it from the mind of an entrepreneur. He goes to a bathroom and is disgusted at all the piss all over the seat. Now most people would just get pissed off about it and then that would be the last that they think about it.

But he views problems as opportunities, so he decides that he will invent a toilet seat that cleans itself off every time after the toilet seat flushes.

See the difference in thinking?

One guy gets pissed off about a situation, and the other guy views it as an opportunity to challenge himself and to make money.

There are countless examples like this. I try to explain this to so many people, and there is always some bullshit example of why they don’t want to buy into it. Don’t be one of these people. Winners don’t get pissed off about menial shit.

Winners capitalize on EVERYTHING that happens in life. EVERYTHING is an opportunity.

Thinking in this manner automatically reframes any potential problems into opportunities.


Another example related to PU:


A woman shit-tests you by saying something like “You’re too short for me” or some stupid bullshit. I swear I am invisible to these types of statements nowadays. Shit tests are literally not a problem for me anymore.

Some guys are puzzled by how to respond to this. A LOSER would say that this is a problem – he is too short for her, it is over…NEXT. Wrong way to think about it buddy.

A WINNER would think “this is an opportunity to knock her socks off” and would say “How tall are you? You’re 5’7? Yeah, your WAYYYYY too tall for me, things would clearly never work out between us.” And then he would create some purely fabricated bullshit right on the spot about why it would never work out, and GO IN DETAIL ABOUT IT….something like “I don’t date women that are over 5’6, because the only way we can dance eye to eye is on stairs. And I am sick of dancing on stairs because my legs really hurt a lot.”

That isn’t even that funny, and I just came up with it now. But a woman would find it hilarious. Why? Because she is impressed that you are not FUMBLED by her testing you. You act like you could care less what she thinks about you, and then you even go so far as saying that she doesn’t fit YOUR qualifications! How many guys do you think regularly do this to her? Not many.

Learning how to properly deal with shit-tests is remarkably easy once you get it.

One more example from last night:

I was hanging out with some friends and my female friend said to this guy that I barely knew

“Where have you been? We’ve been looking all over for you?”

The guy got all defensive and looked like an idiot in front of like 10 people. He even blamed her for them not being able to find him. This is BAD BAD BAD…don’t do it.


If she said that to me I would have said to her

“You know what dear? To be totally honest, I was just sick and tired of you chasing me around like a puppy dog and spanking my ass in front of all these people. I mean we hardly even KNOW these people and you’re parading my ass around like it is some kind of trophy”

I just came up with that now as I typed it. But that is super $. It is also completely fabricated. NONE of those things happened, and she KNOWS this, but look between the lines, do you see how I turned a problem into an opportunity to enhance her attraction level for me?


Remember guys, there are NO problems…only opportunities!



RULE #3

THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN….LIKE, A REAL LOT OF FUN!


Juggler once said something great. He said, assume that sex is a given with a woman. Now how would you want your interaction with her to be? He said that he would want it to be fun, exciting, etc.

If you asked that question to other people, do you think ANYBODY would say to you:


“I would want to debate about conspiracy theories, religion, or politics” (read: NEVER talk about any of these things)

“I would want to listen to someone complain about their job, friends, or relationship”

“I would want to talk about boring, uninteresting things like the weather.”


Nope.

So make a promise to yourself that you will stop taking things so seriously with women. This should be fun guys, not nerve wracking. Women are ENTERTAINMENT. Some might consider that harsh, but it is a great re-frame that will have you less concerned with the results.

If you discovered ASF and have no friends and are looking for women to fill that void in your life, you will be VERY sorry, my friend! I made this mistake and as a result I cared way too much about things like stupid girls flaking on me.

Now, if they flake on me, I have many other activities that I can do. Which takes me to the next rule….


Rule #4

HAVE A LARGE SUPPORT GROUP


And by this, I don’t mean have a lot of people that listen to your problems or tell you that you’re doing well or whatever. I simply mean, have a lot of friends that you can hang out with to get your mind off women.

This solves so many problems at one time, yet it eludes some guys way of thinking. But the more friends you have, the more opportunities you have to go out and have a good time. And the more opportunities you have to go out, the more chances you have to meet women.

You should have many different people that you can go out with and just have a good time. This makes you care A LOT LESS about what women think of you, which ones don’t return your phone calls, etc.

The worst thing anybody can do is sit in the house alone. To get good at the game, you have to talk to people everywhere, and you have to enjoy doing it. If you are an introverted person, you need to literally reprogram yourself. Do that by putting yourself in an environment where you are continually challenging yourself to be an interesting conversationalist.

Start making more of an effort to hang out with new people. If you meet someone, exchange contact info with them and say that you should hang out. Make it nonchalant and not a big deal.



Rule #5

YOU CANNOT CARE WHAT WOMEN THINK OF YOU


This is a very important rule, because the only way you will get anywhere with women is if you don’t care about the results. Become outcome independent. If things don’t happen with a particular women, it’s OK, cause atleast you got some of your buddies to hang out with at the bar, and surely there will be more women there that you can impress with your incredible personality.

If you need to be reminded, the easiest way to accomplish this feeling of outcome-independence is twofold. The ideal situation is to be able to pick up women anywhere, and to have other women that you are already hooking up with.

If you aren’t there yet, then have many different friends that you can hang out with and meet new people through. These two things take your mind off of “that one girl” an incredible amount.


Rule #6

NEVER REACT EMOTIONALLY TO ANYTHING THAT ANYONE TOSSES AT YOU


I can pick an insecure person out of a line of people, out of a bar, or any social situation. It’s really not that hard. Wanna know my secret?

The first dead giveaway is if they look uncomfortable where they are. But secondly, and more importantly, if they are PISSED OFF at anyone or anything, then they are IMMEDIATELY low status in my book.

High status people don’t react emotionally to problems, cause problems are actually opportunities, remember?

High status people don’t get irritated when clueless, idiotic, insecure morons take shots at their character by saying things like “You’re an asshole.”

You know why? Because anybody that would say this to anybody else is automatically LOW STATUS themselves, and therefore SOCIALLY INEPT!

Why do you care what opinion a low status person has of you? By definition, their opinion DOESN’T MATTER. It’s USELESS!

Taking a comment like “you’re an asshole” to heart from a low status person is giving them WAY too much credit for actually being able to correctly assess your behavior. And in reality, these people are scared and clueless themselves. They might have thought you were insulting them, so they felt that they needed to “get back at you” (ANOTHER low status behavior btw) by insulting you.

You know what I do to retarded things like this? Shrug and maybe laugh condescendingly. Cause they don’t deserve me to *actually* re-consider how I present myself to people. That would be giving them WAY too much credit.


Guys, this comes down to credibility. Would you take a homeless man’s opinion on how to become rich? Even if he has a way with words? I mean c’mon, the guy is fucking HOMELESS.

So WHY IN GOD’S NAME are you gonna get all worked up about what some IDIOT thinks about you?

WHY IN GOD’S NAME ARE YOU GONNA GET PISSED OFF AND BITCHY if a girl snubs your approach?

If she snubs you, you could either laugh condescendingly at her, or just politely say “nice meeting you” (I usually do this).

It is literally HER LOSS GUYS. I can’t emphasize this enough. Re-read that again. It is HER LOSS.

If you don’t believe that yet, then you have a lot of work to do. Even if you don’t believe it, that is the attitude you need to go into an approach with. You are a cool guy, and you want to fuck that girl, but you could literally take it or leave it, cause you KNOW you’re the bomb and tons of other quality women will want you anyways.

You cannot react emotionally AT ALL, to ANYTHING a woman says or does! Doing so demonstrates that you actually CARE what she thinks of you….or in other words, your reality is NOT strong.

Your reality is in fact so weak that it can be shaken by what some random women thinks upon meeting you in the first 3 seconds.

Think about that. Is your reality that weak that it can be shattered by someone you DON’T EVEN KNOW? If this is the case, stop it now!

Don’t fucking do it guys. I fucked my progress up HARDCORE for a LONG time because I cared about opinions from idiots.

Opinions from people can be helpful, but ONLY from high status people. It takes a while to be able to figure out who these people are and if you should consider their advice or not.



Rule #7

ELIMINATE ALL SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT THAT YOU HAVE


You don’t DESERVE the hottest chicks, you gotta EARN them.

Stop getting pissed off at the huge dumb buff guys that have the hotties. Turn it into an opportunity or a learning experience. Ask yourself “what does this guy provide to her that she finds attractive?”

Maybe his muscles make her feel secure. Maybe she likes being dominated in bed. How can you use this knowledge to modify your approach to specifically target HER NEEDS?

I used to feel like I was entitled to getting the hottest girls in the world, but in reality, I wasn’t. Sadly, even if I could have gotten them (like if I had 3 wishes from a genie or something), then I still wouldn’t have been able to keep them because my reality was so weak.

Eventually they would have discovered this and left me.

All you are doing when you feel like you deserve something is mindfucking yourself into a situation where what you can ACTUALLY attain and what you THINK you should attain don’t match up.

Maybe you can regularly get 5’s but you think you deserve 10’s. As a result, you will NEVER be satisfied with your results.

Avoid this trap. Have very little expectation of yourself. Your only expectation is that you should be gradually IMPROVING over time. That is the only finite goal that you should have.


Rule #8


LOWER YOUR STANDARDS


If you are reading this post, then it’s probably because you AREN’T fucking a lot of women, you DON’T have a strong reality, and you are NOT satisfied with where you are in life.

Don’t fret, and surely don’t get pissed off about it. This is an opportunity for you, remember?

Lowering your standards is a very important rule. Why?

Because our own level of confidence, no matter how much we like to convince ourselves otherwise, IS BASED ON OUR SUCCESS LEVEL.

Do you think I would have ever written this post if I hadn’t hooked up with 9 girls in the past month and a half? Probably not. Why? Cause my reality probably wouldn’t have been strong enough to convince myself that I am knowledgeable enough to actually HELP other people by giving my advice to them.

Success with women is no different than anything else. When you first enter the batting cages, you start at the slow pitch machine until you can consistently hit the ball and until you are no longer worried about getting hit by the ball.

Then you slowly work your way up in the levels.

Likewise, if you are not hooking up with chicks consistently because you are holding off for more “quality” girls, then you are actually fucking over your confidence level.

Confidence is built by repeated success and belief that what you are doing is working. But in PU, the only way that you know what you are doing is working is if you HAVE SUCCESS! I’m talking atleast a makeout.

You can’t walk away from a girl that you didn’t atleast kiss and say something stupid like “she was attracted.” Cause you don’t actually KNOW that for a fact. So stop coming to bullshit conclusions.

The purpose of lowering your standards is that it is the greatest confidence booster that I know of. It is what turned me into the sex machine that I am in the past few months.



Rule #9

STOP COMING TO BULLSHIT CONCLUSIONS


Avoid the temptation to conclude things when you don’t have enough evidence to do so. Avoid re-tooling your game when you get ONE bad reaction from a girl. Don’t convince yourself that cocky & funny doesn’t work cause 7 girls at a bar didn’t like you because of it.

These things WORK people. I know, I’ve done all of it. Your APPLICATION of it is what is not working. Don’t waste your time coming to bullshit conclusions about anything.

Find a guy that you like and model your style after his. Either in real life or off this website. For beginner’s, maniac’s no nonsense guide is GREAT for fundamentals.

Point is, find a style that is congruent with your personality and go with it. And FORGET about results for a LONG time.

Before you can really conclude anything about your abilities, you need a large sample size. Think about it. Does a scientist do ONE experiment and then write a theory? Nope. So why do the KJ’s do this?

Cause they are hopelessly lost. Get out in the field and forget about the results. And when the results don’t come, DON’T change your game unless you have compelling evidence to do so. Follow a method until it works for you.

I’m gonna say it again cause it’s important. Stop reading about all different types of styles until you are regularly getting consistently laid by women.

One more piece of advice, consider CREDIBILITY when you are clueless on a topic. If you are reading all different posts on mASF, then you will surely get lost. What I do instead is only read posts by posters that I KNOW know what they are talking about.

Recognize that it is impossible to figure out who is credible and who isn’t unless you know something about the topic. Take a piece of advice from me, here are some of the best posters on this website off the top of my head:

Razorjack, Zarathustra_fi, TylerDurden, Dimitri, Woodhaven, PlayerSupreme, Sandworm, Ijjji, Jlaix, Juggler, TokyoPUA, Neo-Rio.

There are many more as well. But why would you read anything that is from someone whose credibility is questionable? If you’re doing it, cut it out. Read the archives first.




YOUR HOMEWORK


Re-read this guide as many times as you need to and implement all of these things into your life until they are a part of who you are.

Hopefully this was atleast a little bit motivational. It won’t be an easy journey, but your life is going to be incredible when it happens.

I’m 22 years old, and woman are literally NO obstacle to me whatsoever anymore. I’ve never taken a workshop and never met anybody from this website.

It can happen for you. Just think about practical ways that you can develop the above rules into becoming a part of your personality.

This is the "method" or "how-to" that I think many people are looking for. While this guide doesn't necessarily provide this for you, it does point out what you need to do and what you need to avoid, and until you can do that, you have no business even reading a "how-to" guide.

Also, the "how-to" is pretty arbitrary. There are many different ways to work on these things that I am talking about. If you really have no idea, then ask and maybe I can come up with something.

as seen on

GULI: Awareness Radius

Subject is still fresh, but somehow i find it very important. At this day. ijjjji and killswitch are pioneer of this theory, i want to add some of mine.

IS AW NEW?
Awareness radius isn't new anything abstract, it's real, and we all the time use it. Thing like frame, confidence and being in own reality, are connected. AW isn't synonym of these, it's rather MEASURER of that. You can say, how much someone is confident, in his own reality or how strong is his frame, by the size of his AR.

WHY AW IS IMPORTANT?
Is important because, we can better and deeper look at things right now. Also the most annoying problem are these, where you can't do anything to change it, because you don't know what is happening. We can discover hundreds of new technics and remodelate our INNER GAME, knowing new concepts.

HOW AW IS DEVELOPING?
Like everything else. If you get reward, that behavior is stronger (AW decrease), if you get punishment, your stop behavior (AW increase).

AW AND BEEING A PRIZE:
Once i gamed chick, who was so much in her reality, that she is a prize that she was almost annoying to me. You can tell her that her nose look like a dick and she take it as you are attracted to her. I was out of her AW, and her actions was in my AW. From early childhood she was treated as prize, so step by step, things such that she could not be so attractive to someone, or that her behavior is childish was just out of her reality.

AW and being higher value.
People with higher value, get a lot of attention, so their AW is relatively small, only things worth their attention, could be in their AW.

AW AND SPORT:
Ever think about, great sportsmen. He is training his mentality, that when he is at sport event, he think only of his task, nothing else, not about his finances, not about competitors, not about how much people watch him.

AW AND LEADERSHIP:
The one who has smallest AW in particular situation:because he has higher value, because he know the problem, because he has will to act, become leader. Other will sucked in his frame, and follow him.
Think charismatic people: they are so focused, so much in their reality, many times fanatic, critics, enemies, and so on are out of their reality - AW.

AW AND DOMINANCE:
Think Don Corleone, he don't need to shout at others, or constantly fight for attention and power. Someone doesn't accept his reality, end in cement buts;]. By ears he build so small AW, so much in his reality, that he seems like a god. The same with dictators :Stalin for example.

SMALL AW HAS TENDENCY TO BECOME EVEN SMALLER.
On vacation i was sail on Pogoria - polish Tall SHip. I was leader of 10 people group. At beginning, i was aware, of what they think about my leading, how they react to me, and so on. At the end. I lead them almost automatically. Small AW.

AW AND AMOG:
Works two ways.
By keeping your AW small, you can ignore amog. (very effective)

You can increase his AW, by making him more aware, of everything:
-"Dude, you have this Fruit of the loom shirt, it's very alpha"
- "Man, this was good, you are loud, you are alpha, i don't want to fight we you, take all these girls, they are yours"

And so on.

INCREASING AW AS A WEAPON:
Guy living next door, have a huge party. The all are drunk loud. Very small AW, you want to sleep, but you cant (Huge AW). You go to him once, and tell -"Guys the music is too loud", he respond - "Okey dude", don't even noticed you.
You go next time, and still he don't noticed you. Then you go third time, but this time, you beat his ass hard. Next time he will see you, his AW will increase dramatically.

MEN AND WOMEN:
Better be feared than ignore, this is male concept. Men building muscle, try to look dangerous, achieve success, build reputation. People respect them, and keep them in their AW, even because of fear.
Not noticed women is dead in evolution area. She will make herself more beuty. Act dramatic. Wear sexy outfit, to go into everyone AW.

AW AND SHIT TESTS:
Ideal betaized guy, is the one who put all his attention on women. His AW is big, and totally focused on her.
Many shit test are prior to get attention.
If asking for help doesn't work, she will induce drama, if not she will fight for lead. Any method is good to be noticed.
Guys who are popular with women, treat them like little child. They keep their AW small, and act indifrently to her actions. -"You are a jerk" - (try to increase his AW), - "Yeah, babe, i i am, come kiss me" (keeps his AW small).

AW AND SEDUCTION METHODS:
Mystery method:
My Aw is small, everybody suck into this. I ignore the chick so she want to get under my AW.

Tyler Durden - hard to get- the same. You emulate the guy who has smaller AW then her, so higher value, she start to chase you.

Sexual state ala Gunwitch:
You are focusing on fucking, so in your reality, there is no such think as shit tests, amogs, and so on.


AWARENESS RADIUS MUST BE CALIBRATE.
You don't want to become an annoying guy, who is so much in his reality, that when you invite him for 2 hours, he stay there for 2 days, thinking that he is so interesting, unable to read subcommunications. NO.
AW is a mechanism you use, but it doesn't mean, not noticed think, but it mean to act if you decide that this is good.

Long, but i hope interesting.
What are yours opinion?

as seen on Fast Seduction

Ijjjji: Momentum - the real thing

Doubtful-ijjjji: You say confidence is not a thing, but it sure _feels_ like a thing. Like sometimes, I feel I got it inside me, and sometimes I don't have it inside me at all. How do you explain this if its no a thing??

Doubtful-ijjjji: And you say its not something you need to build, yet there are things I can do that make me get it more and more inside me.. like moving around.. or putting on strong BL.. or doing a few 'warm up' approaches.. or even just having a very active day before I go sarging.. these build it inside me but you say its not something you can build. Surely you must be mistaken, no?

ijjjji:

What you talk of is MOMENTUM.

This is real. The good feeling it creates, is the same that the 'bullshit confidence model' aim for. But it makes 3 wrong assumptions about it:

1. That its part of you, like a personality trait.
2. That it comes from inside you.. your thoughts, feelings, past experiences etc.
3. That you can hold onto it, preserve it, keep it strong inside you.

I'll explain each:

1. That its part of you, like a personality trait.

If this was true, why is it so strong one day and totally gone the next, or maybe even minutes after? No - its not a part of you at all. Its only part of the SITUATION you have put yourself in.

(The STUPID idea that its part of you, can lead to thinking you are a wimp or a loser or that something is wrong with you, on days when its not there.. this is the most HARMFUL effect of the 'bullshit confidence idea'.)

2. That it comes from inside you.. your thoughts, feelings, past experiences etc.

If this was true, why is it so difficult (impossible?) to sit still and summon it mentally? Why can you only change it by doing stuff (changing your situation)? No - its not starting inside you and flowing towards the outside. It starts in the situation you are in, and flows into you.

3. That you can hold onto it, preserve it, keep it strong inside you.

Again, why does it come and go so suddenly if this was possible? No - you can not preserve it. Whenever you enter situations that don't create it, it will be gone. And when you enter situations that create it, it will be back.

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I say above that it comes from the situation.. but its important to realize that YOU decide what situations you seek out or create! You still control it 100%! And its not complicated - all you got to do is seek situations with lots of action in them, OR seek a more ACTIVE ROLE in your current situation.

Examples:
-Sitting still in the office or in class room, trying to solve problems theoretically for 3 hours.. removes all momentum.
-Washing the dishes then tidying the living room and cleaning the floor.. creates lots of momentum.
-Sitting still in a pub looking at girls.. removes all momentum.
-Talking to friends or colleagues or strangers.. creates a lot of 'social' momentum.
-Sitting still reading.. removes momentum.
-Moving around.. creates momentum and is a great first step.
-Deep thinking.. removes momentum.
-Putting on a more relaxed, or more masculine, or more sexual BL.. creates momentum.
-Doing stuff in general.. creates momentum - not doing stuff takes it away.

OK LETS GET PRACTICAL!!!

You are about to talk to a chick, but that fucker MR.CAREFUL wants to think about it first. Before, you would think stuff like:
-Oh no I lost my confidence!
-Oh no its an OFF night!
-GOD I HATE THIS - I'M SUCH A FUCKING LOSER! WHY IN HELL DIDN'T I APPROACH!? SHE EVEN SMILED AT ME!!

From now on you will think:
-Hehe oops I forgot to warm up. Better keep moving and do some short throw-away-warm-up-sets over there and maybe return later!

(Credit to Mystery, who first described this and named it 'momentum'. He also invented warm up sets, where you quickly open a few girls with no intention of gaming them.)

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Ijjjji: Confidence is bullshit

99.9% of the stuff you do in a day, you do without thinking. Like tying your shoe lace.

But on rare occasion you sense danger and approach carefully: Analyze -> Determine expected outcome -> Act accordingly.

Often the situation is not dangerous, but maybe you don't know this because its a new situation to you. But you soon realize its safe and start doing it without thinking.

But sometimes we use the careful approach a bit too long, so it turns into a habit with that specific type of situation.

'Confidence' is a word we use when we try to describe this situation. We often say we 'lack confidence' or that we 'lost our confidence' or that we need to 'build some confidence'. As you now can see, THIS 'CONFIDENCE' IS PURE AND UTTER BULLSHIT, its not a thing, its not something we lost or need to build, it does not exist and it has nothing to do with reality.

IN REALITY, its just a BAD HABIT. A habit of acting too carefully in a certain type of situation.

And habits are only changed by ACTING in a new way, repeatedly over time. This creates a new pattern that replaces the old one. It can be hard at first but always much easier soon after.

LETS GET PRACTICAL:

I'm sure you know approximately where you should start! This is just some tips you can try for fun if you want to:
-Replace needy goals like "get laid" and "get 3 #s a night" with this: NO MORE MR. CAREFUL!
-Develop some extreme macho body language habits (borderline cartoon-like) and have a humorous/non serious attitude about it. Do it for fun!
-Stop agreeing with MR.CAREFUL type guys on mASF. Laugh at them and stay in your new frame!
-Create a mental picture that illustrates how ridiculous it is to be carful around girls - be creative! Recall this picture when you start thinking around girls, to kick you out of that old habit!
-Change 3 seconds rule into 0 seconds rule.
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-(Fill in with your own ideas. Then take some action.)

(Sidenote: 'Skill', 'understanding' and 'experience' are other words we use in a similar way, as an excuse for why we cant or shouldnt act right now. Stuff like PU and public speaking does not require any of these. Al they require is adopting a 'shoe lace'-approach.)

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Dimitri: Getting Her to Put Work In

Hope everyone had a lovely Thanksgiving. For all your viewing pleasure, here's some ways to get a women putting in work to get you.

This will increase one of the three parts of Attraction. If you haven't read the Model of Attraction, those are:

Value for her life
A sense you're attainable
Her putting in effort to get you

"New Attraction Model" is available here:

http://the-approach.net/art_attraction_model.php

or in the ASF archives, whatever you please.

On 11/22/05 9:34:00 PM, effigyc wrote:
>So I want to talk more about
>the "making her work for you."

Absolutely.

>Below is my understanding of
>what we're talking about here,
>feel free to correct me if I'm
>wrong.
>
>We see a girl at a coffee
>shop. We start a
>conversation. We're making
>her laugh, vibing with her,
>having a good time.

Okay at this point, you already have some value for her life. Showing confidence, fun, maybe a little humor, social savvy, that you're cool, that you guys can have fun together.

Also since you're connecting with her (vibing, having a good time) she likely has some sense you're attainable. If you don't see any sign of her Auto-Rejection Mechanism kicking in, assume the attainability's there if you've got some connection.

So far, so good, except...

>Now, to
>insure that she'll want to see
>us again, we're going to make
>her put some effort into
>things.

... she hasn't put any work in! Exactly!

This is the Cost/Value Conception. In short, people don't value things they don't pay for. A girlfriend of mine takes me out to an expensive restaurant and gets me a $40 glass of wine and I don't finish it. I buy a bottle of water for myself and I refuse to throw it away before I drink it all.

The more EFFORT you put into getting something, the more you feel like you DESERVE it. That makes you actively want it, and want to pursue it and keep it. If I got given a bottle of water for free, but accidentally dropped it and it rolled under a table, I might just leave it there. But if I BUY the thing (effort) I'll go get it.

So I feel like I deserve it more. The other thing it does is...

>Thusly, she'll value
>them more.

Exactly! Great thinking man, your head's in the right place. When a woman feels like she wants something, she'll rationalize it's more valuable to herself. So it's a cycle, but to make a long story short:

Value for her life + Sense you could be attainable + Effort on her part =ATTRACTED

>The ways we go
>about this are:

There are LOTS of ways to do this. I could fill up 30 pages in a couple hours on how to do this. When I teach this stuff, I go on for quite a while. But a few things you can do:

>Neging - Let's say we cut her
>off in the middle of something
>she's saying, and say "Oh,
>you've kind of got a little
>booger there." This would
>certainly embaress the shit
>out of her, and do some
>serious damage to
>"attainablity." Would it
>however make her start working
>to get you? Is it even
>necissary?

A cardinal rule of negging is it's supposed to be playful, not an insult. That said, if you ALREADY had some potential value, a neg can get them to work. If they react at all... they're working to get you basically.

If they test you, they're putting energy into the interaction to make it go forwards, and giving you an opportunity to pass her test (and we all know what happens when you do that). If she starts qualifying herself, she's obviously working to get you.

However, if you had no value for her life at all, not potentially any (but don't be fooled, body language, walking patterns, facial expressions, style, and image can all communicate potential value, not just your words) then she'd just ignore you. That's actually the worst result you can get from a neg.

BUT if you neg at the wrong time, like if she's really opening up and you neg her, it'll tank attainability. That'll set off her Auto-Rejection Mechanism and she'll reject herself, which means she'll shut down. ARM manifests itself different ways, but she might get very rude, might get quiet and walk away, or might go start seeking validation elsewhere. Regardless ARM is a mistake, it means you let attainability get too low and is not a good place to be. But a well-placed neg can get her to start putting work in (also something truly amazing that I learned from Mystery personally was that after he does his 3 neg thing, he then communicates a "You've passed" vibe to her and qualifies her. Amazing to see, hard to describe, but he's framing it like she's worked for him - Very masterful on his part, he knows his stuff)

>Getting her to verbally
>qaulify herself to you -
>there's really only two ways I
>can think to do this. One is
>to simply ask her if she likes
>or can do certain things.
>i.e. do you like to go
>camping, or can you cook.

Basic screening questions, yes.

>Two would be to command her to
>qaulify herself. i.e. Style's
>tell me three interesting
>qaulities you have, or to say
>"Well, its great that you love
>shopping, but isn't there
>anything else you like to do?"

Okay, that's a second. There's lots more ways to get her to verbally qualify herself though. One way would be to disqualify her (see Japanese Nurse LR) on a characteristic she DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE. This will get them automatically qualifying themselves 90% of the time at the expense of your attainability (and if executed poorly, your value, since you will look like you don't have social skills if you say an innocent girl is too wild, etc).

There's lots of other ways. You can even make a blanket statement like, "Wow it's a shame so many people watch so much TV these days. I like to relax and veg sometimes, but people give up SO much of the amazing world out there." Will result in her verbally qualifying herself often.

Disqualify people in general who have a trait she herself doesn't like, and tie the OPPOSITE to her verbally qualifying.

This is powerful. If she's a world traveller, saying something like, "God so many people miss out on seeing the world, and I think they wind up being worse lovers and worse in relationships because of it."

Most people who travel love to rant about people who just "stay in their own backyard all life". So when you say that because of that they're worse lovers... it means when she agrees with you and says she travels, she's saying she's a good lover and good in relationships. Therefore, she'll feel like she's worked for you afterwards.

Remember, all of these components aren't about having/being/doing them, it's about the perception of them. Perceived value for her life, perceived attainability, perceived effort put in. She might put no "real" effort in, but if she feels she's worked hard for you, she'll want her prize regardless of if she really worked hard or not. Imagine you're getting ready for a big competition. You train really hard for the competition, days in and days out, sweat and blood. And you win! You're going to want your prize. Now... what if the competition was fixed, but you don't know that? You still feel like you worked hard to win, so you still feel attracted to the prize/title/status you got by winning. Even if the "work" that the women put in is "fixed", and they're not really working, that can be enough. Is it the best way? No, but it is a way.

>Getting her to physically do
>things. Like give you a
>massage or drive you
>somewhere.

Yes. Asking her to bring a small ingredient for cooking on her way over, or a bottle of wine. Or something unrelated to what you're doing with her even.

If she says she has to go to the store later, hand her $5 and ask her to buy you a copy of Gentlemen's Quarterly (magazine) while she's there. This is actually triple-pronged attack territory: That little technique will increase your value, her sense of your attainability, and the effort she's put in.

Effort: She's doing you a favor, working to please you and help you.

Attainability: Many men wouldn't realize that this technique increases attainability. It does. Any time you make plans past the current moment, it demonstrates you've already decided to see her again. Now if she turned out crazy, I'd cut my losses, let her keep the lousy magazine or $5, and bail. But that's not the way the female mind works... When you've got something "on the burner" they feel you're not going anywhere, and it increases the sense that it's possible to have you.

Value: You're confident and help delegate things you need help with to people you trust. You're not burdening her... picking up a magazine at checkout doesn't really make her life harder. Plus, it's GQ, you're a fashionable guy. You're not being over the top with your request, just nonchalant (note for guys who dress really, really poorly: Choose a different magazine) about it.

Other "tangible" things she can do for work: Help cook, help clean your place (YES, you can get a woman you just met to help clean your place on a first or second meet, it just takes some game), do anything that furthers your life or appears to please or help you, or getting her to do any little thing.

>So my questions are these:
>
>Am I even on the right page
>here?

Yes, you're definitely thinking in the right direction. You need to expand your horizons a little bit and think more. I've shared maybe 2% of my techniques for getting her to put in work with you here, there's a lot that can be done. Think about it: What can you do to make her feel like she's worked to get you?

Have fun with it. Not only will women in your life be more attracted to you if they're working for you, but you'll have more productive relationships. Enjoy!

>Are the techniques I'm
>talking about what Dimitri's
>advocating using?
>
>What are some other ways of
>making her "work" for you?

Oh, there's lots of things. Again, it's the perception of her working to get you.

These can be big things, like favors. Obviously paying for you is good. "Hey, you got this one?" at a coffee shop will have her buying your coffee. This tends to be bad for attainability, but good for effort, and it near always works. I'll often take a girl rollerskating on $2 skating night here. Skate rentals are $3, so it's $10 for both of us. I say, "Hey, you got this one?" It's $10, it's meaningless... but she paid for the date, so now any charming of her I do, she feels like she earned and values a lot more.

Other stuff: Well-phrased and well-framed compliments can actually make it seem like she WORKED to have you open her! It's amazing, isn't it? Men often forget that women put in TONS of work to appeal to men. If you're meeting up with her for a date and she looks really good, you can say, "Wow, I'm impressed. You must've taken a lot of time to fix yourself up but that means a lot to me - You look good girl." You just framed it like she went out of her way to impress you (which she probably did). How about this opener? "I saw you walking by... and I had to say... you look absolutely stunning." The pace part is her walking, then you HAD to say she looked stunning.

Here's one that many men won't identify with or understand. A lot of black guys, when they play the game, they say the woman has to make eye contact before they'll approach. Player Supreme has written about this, and it's a fairly standard pimp M.O. Then the guy approaches... SHE made the first move, and that move was EFFORT on her part to get the man. Even something as simple as eye contact can be her putting in work.

Other stuff. "Testing" her on the dance floor/rollerskating rink/wherever. Having her help you with something big in your life. Having her lie to someone fore you (unscrupulous but +effort definitely). The "conspiracy" frame is really good for work, like if you tell her to subtly slip you her number.

How about when you #close and don't have a pen? Go fetch it yourself? Hell no! Have her get the pen, or play the "Pen Guess" game I created for this very reason.

Say, "Hmmm... let's make a game of this, we'll take turns guessing who around here is the most likely person to have a pen. I'll guess first." Then you guess a person, and walk up to them and ask if they have a pen. If they do, it's no different than if you'd just asked them without he game. But if they don't, now it's her turn to guess who has a pen, and then go ask that person if she can borrow it.

I originally made up that game to preserve value (because asking multiple people if they have a pen looks poorly) but it increases the effort she's put in too, ESPECIALLY if the game goes 5 or 6 people deep. And guess what? If she winds up being the one to get the pen, the number is about 60% more solid. Hey, maybe we should even make the first guess someone unlikely to have a pen? ;)

>Effy.

There's lots of ways to get them feeling like they've put in work, Effy. The big thing is to remember to do it. Now some guys will just do this a token amount because they want to get laid. That's cool, and their game will improve by taking little games I've invented, little lines and cues from solid top-notch players, and throwing them in. But if you want to be really superb, you should start demanding that women work to get you. Have standards and make them meet them. Have them help with logistics. Have them work to catch you.

>If you question anything,
>question
>your limitations.

Great quote man. Now get those women a-workin'!


Sebastian

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Dimitri: The Attraction Model

The Attraction Model
By Sebastian Dimitri Drake


A definition of attraction - and a way to consistently to get attraction from any girl - is long overdue. Perhaps the two most misunderstood parts of the community are attraction and one of the pieces of it, value.

I'll set the record straight, and give you a gameplan for how to attract any woman in the world, as well as give specific examples of how attraction works. Since many people are familiar with it, I picked Neil Strauss' New York Times Bestseller The Game for my examples on how attraction works - I'll use a few excerpts from the book to explain how this all works.

Attraction is something desirable to someone, that much is obvious. But to create the kind of real, almost-tangible attraction that'll cause a woman to sleep with you, you need two components:

The Two Components of Attraction Are Value and Deservedness.

I will explain both.

"Value" is value for her life, based on her perceptions. What is valuable is unique to every single person, but pattern of what is valuable can easily be seen. Some things are almost always seen as valuable, and some things are almost always seen as detrimental to value. But the value of any given thing to a person is different for that person than another.

What does this mean? A giant script will not appeal to every single woman. At best, a script can mass-appeal to a man's target audience. Many sorority girls might have similar value for each other, so if you wanted that demographic, a script that's useful on many could be devised. But for broader categories, like "college girls", you'll need knowledge of how value works for different people.

There are many traits that are almost universally valuable (and thus, attractive). These should be almost universally developed, so that you're perceived as having them with minimal effort on your part. This includes confidence, charisma, leadership, intelligence, quick wit, sharp instincts, health, wealth, a strong sense of survival, purpose, adaptability, and so on. Very, very, very few women find these traits unattractive, so it's in every man's best interest to appear to have these.

This can be done in one of three ways.

1. Develop the trait: If you become confident, you will appear confident. If you become healthy, you will appear healthy. Et cetra.

This is the path that takes the longest to achieve out of the three, but is the easiest once you've achieved it.

2. Develop the appearance of the trait: "A prince need not possess princely qualities. He merely needs the appearance of princely qualities." - Niccolo Machiavelli

Machiavelli is largely right. If you're not confident, nor a leader, it is still in your best interest to develop the body language and walking patterns of a confident leader. This will give you the appearance of these things, the benefit of which is twofold: You'll be perceived as having the quality (useful in your immediate interactions) and by being perceived as having it, you might actually develop the quality ("fake it 'till you make it" at work). Developing the appearance of a quality you don't have is actually a great way to help develop that quality.

3. Demonstrate you have the quality any time the occasion arises. This is the fastest way to show one person you have a trait about you, but the least efficient way to show the world you have a quality. A good example for this would be kino: It demonstrates you're comfortable with yourself and comfortable around others (among other things).

If a man wants to demonstrate he's comfortable with himself and around others, one way might be to kino. After he achieves a base proficiency in kinesthetic interaction (kino, touching other people in a normal way), he can do so consciously to appear to be comfortable with himself and around others.

Over time, his kino will become automatic. At his point he's developed the appearance of the trait, and most people he will meet will perceive him as comfortable with himself and around others.

Finally, if he allows his belief system to develop, he'll come to actually be comfortable with himself and around other people. At this point, no conscious technique or tactic is necessary: He has simply become a person who is comfortable with himself and around others. Because this is a universally attractive trait, he is now always a more attractive man and he knows it.

Outside of universally attractive things are things that are attractive to specific women. A gold-digger wants money and status. A 28-year old working professional may be looking for a stable husband/father type man. A 34-year old divorcee may be looking for a feeling of youth and excitement. A young girl may want maturity OR want fun and popularity. Or both.

What any given woman wants is different based on the woman. But you can make generalizations. I always ask students what type of relationships they're looking for, and what their "type" is. Age, ethnicity, nationality, and social class are all ways that you can make an intelligent guess about what is attractive to a woman. It's why many pick-up artists have to adjust their techniques when moving to a new location. Even in the same nation, such as the cities of Atlanta and New York City, there are some differences in what the majority of people are looking for.

That said, fine-tuning your game to your "type" is great, but a master's proficiency in pickup will let you adjust what you're demonstrating to the specific girl you're with - and know exactly what to demonstrate.

Cultivating Deservedness:

Part of attraction is value. A large part. If you appear to have no value for her life, something that she'd specifically want, than it doesn't matter how much of the second part, deservedness, you cultivate.

But it is relatively easy to appear to have value. If you have even some semblance of "a life" then you've got some value. If you do some basic things to improve your life (or alternatively, the appearance of having improved your life) then value won't be your problem.

Attraction is not exclusively value. Value is a part of attraction, and necessary for it, but the second necessary component for attraction is deservedness.

Deservedness is broken into two parts: Attainability, and effort. Both require a comprehensive explanation and guidelines on how to produce these feelings in a woman.

Attainability, first, may confuse some. In all of life, people seem to strive for the unattainable. Something just a step beyond them.

But these things always seem to have some attainability to them. Think about it like this: While you may enjoy looking at a centerfold in a magazine, you are more likely to fall madly in love with the girl next door. Though a centerfold prompts a lot of physical attraction in you, you do nothing to actually GET the centerfold (well, most people...).

This comes down to an important concept called the Auto-Rejection Mechanism. In short, if someone believes they have no chance, they won't try. It's the reason master pick-up artists often struggle trying to pick up ugly girls: The girls have no sense of entitlement, so they don't let themselves get attracted and get hurt.

You can see examples with people aiming for a bit more than they have, too. The people that get very attracted to wanting a yacht are people that can either afford it or come close. Rarely will you see someone that is very poor strongly desire a yacht. Since it does not have attainability in their mind, they can not be seduced by the idea.

The second part of deservedness is effort. Specifically effort the woman puts in.

This is all based on the Cost-Value Conception. In short, Cost-Value says this: You will value something that costs a lot over something that costs little, largely irrespective of their real value. If you've ever won a stuffed animal at an amusement park or carnival, you know what I'm talking about. While you might not even take one for free if they're handing them out on the street as a promotion, by winning it at the carnival (putting in effort and probably more money than thing is worth) it gains a lot of value. The cost determines the value.

When a woman is forced to work for something, she will want it more. However, in the beginning, if she sees it as unattainable, she likely won't want it. This is largely true of men, too. While a man might like and desire a beautiful woman he sees passing, or a model, he's more likely to grow very attached to a woman he had sex with who broke up with him, or a woman who keeps saying she really likes him as a friend.

To make someone attracted to you, you simply need to have value and for them to feel deservedness. For value, you need value for their life. There are universally valuable/attractive things like confidence, charisma, health, wealth, loyalty, faith in oneself, purpose, fun, leadership, survival ability, and so on, there are also traits that are more or less valuable/attractive at different points in a woman's life. Some of these, like wealth and fun, are universally good but are larger priorities for some women than others. Other characteristics, like danger, eccentricity, risk-taking, and so on may be very attractive to certain women, but unattractive to others. It is a sad testament that even many traits that are mostly UNattractive are attractive to certain people, such as abuse and control. These people are mentally unhealthy, and though I advise you to stay away from them, it's worth noting that sometimes negative traits may be attractive to certain types of women at certain points in their lives.

For deservedness, make sure they feel you are attainable. This would mean not demonstrating all kinds of value to them without them knowing why: This makes you look desperate most of the time, but the worst part is that it can make many normal women feel insecure and that you're unattainable even when you do it well! Solid screening and qualifying can increase their sense of your attainability if you know how to target your questions and responses. The "special advantage" that Vincent is always talking about making her feel like she has is another good way.

The second part of deservedness is having her put in effort. If a woman works for a man, even just a bit, she'll be more attracted to him and want him more. Over time, you can use this to change the compliance scales between you two and make sure you keep getting compliance out of her. The result will be that she feels she's earned you and wants to keep you. If you continue to bed a woman for long periods of time, and she isn't helping you build your lifestyle, then you may run into problems where she isn't putting in enough effort and doesn't feel like she's worked for you, and therefore deserves you. So she loses attraction.

Examples from The Game by Neil Strauss:

I choose The Game by Neil Strauss as a teaching tool for this article. It's a cool read, and instead of using anecdotes from my own life of which I'm obviously biased, I can use a well-known good guy and objectively point out why people are or aren't attracted to each other in the book. I'll use some short excerpts and reference the page numbers, so y'all can read up the background at home if you have a copy.


On pages 312-317, Neil starts doing an interview of Britney Spears, a very coveted celebrity. He gets her phone number in a feat of true prowess, but is waffling on calling her.

THE GAME PAGE 317:
>>>>>>>>>>>
"Just call her," Mystery constantly prodded me. "What do you have to lose? Tell her, 'Can you not look like Britney Spears? We're going to do some crazy shit, and we can't get caught. We're going to wear wigs, climb up to the Hollywood sign, and touch it for good luck."

"If I had met her socially, fine. But this is a work assignment."

"You're playing the game at another level now. When the article is finished, it isn't an assignment anymore. So call her."

But I couldn't do it. If it had been Dalene Kurtis, the Playmate of the Year, I would have called her back in a second. I had no fear of women like that anymore. I felt worthy. I'd proven that over and over since meeting her. But Britney Spears?

One's self-esteem can only grow so much in a year and a half.
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MY COMMENTS:

You see Neil deciding against calling her because he thinks she's unattainable. The telltale lines are, "I had no fear of women like that anymore. I felt worthy." (shows he feels Dalene Kurtis is attainable to him) And "One's self-esteem can only grow so much in a year and a half." (shows he doesn't think Britney is attainable)

Now, if Britney had wanted Neil, she could have fostered a sense of attainability about herself for him. A phone call or two, or perhaps something akin to some of the techniques we use to ground herself as an average person beneath all the celebrity. And if she had done that, Neil would have became much, much attracted to her than he was.

***

Towards the end of The Game, Neil becomes very attracted - and eventually goes completely exclusive for - a woman named Lisa. What did Lisa have that the other girls didn't? Well, she had value for his life, being beautiful, intelligent, and with a better personality than most of the girls Neil has met. And since Neil is a top-notch Pick-Up Artist, he feels all women are attainable: He's unlikely to feel an Auto-Rejection Mechanism except on the most elite of celebrities.

But what about work? At this point in the book, Neil is used to getting huge amounts of compliance from the women in his life. He runs his game for a while and they like it. He phase-shifts and kisses them. They begin to fall ga-ga for them, and if necessary, he uses his techniques to blast LMR and bed them. When and how he pleases.

THE GAME PAGE 365
>>>>>>>>>>
I held her eye contact and moved toward her for the kiss, holding the camera in front of us to capture it.

"I'm not kissing you," she barked.

The words scalded my face like hot coffee. There was no girl I couldn't kiss within a half hour of meeting her. What was her problem?

I froze her out and tried again. Nothing.

It is in these moments that, as a PUA, you start to question the work you've done on yourself. You begin to worry that maybe she sees the real you, the one who existed before the silly nickname, the one who wrote poems about this exact situation in high school.

I delivered a moving, impassioned performance of the evolution phase-shift routine. Somewhere in the distance, I heard a thousand PUAs applauding.

"I'm not biting you," she said.

I wasn't through. I told her the most beautiful love story ever written: "On Seeing the 100 Percent Perfect Girl One Beautiful April Morning" by Haruki Murakami. It is about a man and a woman who are soul mates. But when they doubt their connection for a moment and decide not to act on it, they lose each other forever.

She was ice cold.

I tried a hardcore freeze-out: I blew out the candles, turned off the music, turned on the lights, and checked my email.

She climbed into my bed, curled up under the covers, and went to sleep.

I finally I joined her, and we slept on opposite ends of the bed.
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MY COMMENTS:

There is no doubt at this point in the book that Lisa will end up with Style if she wants him. She has value for his life, he feels she is attainable to him, but he will be made to work for it. If he "catches" her in the end, he will be astronomically more attracted to him than if she had bedded him that evening.

The old addage that a woman must make her man wait to have her for him to respect her isn't necessarily true. But it is one of the simplest and easiest ways of making a man work to get her and become more attracted.

The only way, the absolutely only way Lisa could lose Neil at this point in the novel is for his sense of attainability to fall off. This would be a difficult proposition, but because Style is a man of some character and self-esteem, he won't hang around forever if she makes it clear she won't be his. The value is there. He's worked for her. Now, if she keeps herself appearing attainable, she can have him when she likes him.


THE GAME PAGE 368:
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So we [Neil and Lisa] spent another platonic night together. It was driving me crazy. I knew she liked me. But she wouldn't get intimate. I was teetering on the border of being LJBF'ed.

Maybe I just wasn't her type. I imagined her with tattooed, muscle-bound, leather-jacketed Danzig types, not a scrawny metrosexual guy who had to take pickup workshops. She was killing me.

For the first time since I'd learned the word one-itis, I knew that I was doomed. No one ever gets his one-itis. He gets too clingy and needy and blows it. And, sure enough, I blew it.
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MY COMMENTS:

At this point, Neil is questing whether she's attainable or not. And then when she blows him off later, leaving him at the airport with a limo, liquor, and a fancy date planned, his sense of her attainability is near-gone. He continues to pursue her, but details on page 372 that he leaves a message for her and she doesn't call back.

Neil does his thing, and goes on a little tear of his own, sleeping with a bunch of different women. He thinks of Lisa from time to time, but you can even see what happens in the pacing of the book: There's barely a mention of her for the next 24 pages as he talks about sleeping with other women and all the ProHo drama. Though no one can be sure, pick-up artists would like to think Neil didn't spend all his time pining over Lisa in the days that passed until he ran into her again. Though this will happen occasionally with women, most of the time high self-esteem men won't think constantly over a one-itis once the sense of attainability is gone. At the very least, they're unlikely to take rational action unless the woman first makes a move of her own.

Which Lisa does, incidentally. If you've read the book, you know what happens. She shows up in her convertible, and Neil is ecstatic. She expresses interest in him on page 396 and his sense of her attainability is back.

THE GAME PAGE 410:
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[Strauss:] "So what made you drive up the hill the other day to see me again?"

[Lisa:] "while you were gone, I realized how much I missed you." I loved watching her lips part over her front teeth when she talked. It made me think of salmon on rice. "My friends were making fun of me because I was counting down the days until you came home. I actually went grocery shopping while you were gone so I could cook you food. I don't know why." She hesitated and smiled, as if she were offering information she'd never planned to divulge. "I bought a fresh piece of swordfish and had to throw it away because it went bad."

A warm flush of confidence filled my chest. So I still had a chance with this girl.
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MY COMMENTS:
Neil, again, sees Lisa as attainable and you can actually see him immediately feel attraction! She says she misses him, and then he thinks about how much he loves watching her lips part over her front teeth. He analogizes it to salmon on rice.

This is going to lead to more effective seduction on her part: She likes him, and with all the work she's made him put in, she has a definite shot at exclusivity with a top-notch pickup artist if she wants it. Her own "game" is definitely top of the line.

The rest of pages 410 and 411 are provide even better examples. Why did Lisa act the way she did and lose attraction for Neil? She, herself, wasn't sure about his attainability. She was thankfully sure enough to reengage him, but there was a little mixup that caused her Auto-Rejection Mechanism to set in - and tell a guy that she liked that he had no chance.

She's not rejecting Neil, she's rejecting HERSELF! This is what happens when the sense of attainability is removed.

THE GAME PAGE 410
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"But it's too late," she said. "The window was open with me, and you blew it."

David DeAngelo would have said to go cocky funny here. Ross Jeffries would have said not to buy into her frame. Mystery would have said to punish her. But I had to ask: "How did I blow it?"

"First off, you didn't call me when you came home from Miami. I had to go to you."

"Hold on. I thought you were blowing me off. You never even called while I was away."

"Well, your voice mail said you were out of town and you weren't receiving calls, so I didn't leave a message."

"Yeah, but I would have returned your call. I wanted to hear from you."

"Then you came to Whiskey Bar and hardly talked. And the last straw was when we went to your house to go surfing. I told Sam I was starting to like you again and she said, 'Get over it. When I went up to his room to use the bathroom, I found a used condom on the floor.'"

My brain leaped up and slapped itself. I had been careless: I'd forgotten to throw away the condom I'd used with Isabel. So that's what Sam and she were whispering about in the car on the way to Malibu.

"So then why did you agree to go out with me tonight?"

"You asked me out on a proper date. And you were a little nervous, so I figured you must really be into me."

I propped myself up on the pillows. I was about to say the most AFC thing of my life. "Let me tell you something. The pickup artists have a word they call one-itis. It's a disease that people get when they become obsessed with just one girl. And they never end up with this girl because they get too nervous around her and scare her away."

"So?" she asked.

"So," I said. "You're my one-itis."

We were looking each other in the eyes now. I could see hers sparkle. I knew mine were sparkling. It was time to kiss her.

There were no lines, no routines, no evolution phase-shift--I'd tried them all unsuccessfully anyway. I leaned in. She leaned in. Her eyes closed. My eyes closed. Our lips met. It was just like I'd always thought a kiss was supposed to begin.

For hours, we lay there making out and dissecting the connections and misunderstandings of the past few weeks.
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MY COMMENTS:

You can see her ARM (Auto-Rejection Mechanism) in motion. "I told Sam I was starting to like you again and she said, 'Get over it. When I went up to his room to use the bathroom, I found a used condom on the floor.'"

"I told Sam I was starting to like you again" is a classic example of attraction rebuilding. Neil invites Lisa surfing, so Lisa thinks Neil is attainable. Attraction grows. But then Sam tells Lisa about the condom on the floor. Attainability fades. Attraction fades.

BUT, Neil Strauss is a man of exceptional character, and shows why he's been crowned one of the best pick-up artists of this era. Though he's not exactly sure why, he knows intuitively that David DeAngelo's advice is based on making her work for him, which isn't the answer. Ross and Mystery are suggesting to do things that demonstrate traits of independence and choice, which also isn't necessary.

So Neil opens up and shows Lisa he's attainable. He goes as far as to tell her that he's obsessed with her: And it works. The value for her life was there (Neil's a great guy with a good career and lots of interesting stuff going on). She's had to work for him, charming and seducing him. When he shows her that he's attainable to her, she falls for him.

Deciding to be faithful now, Strauss sets about dumping his other girlfriends.

THE GAME PAGE 411:
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"So you're choosing her over me?" Isabel asked angrily.

"It's not an intellectual choice."

"Is she better in bed or something?"

"I don't know. We've only kissed."

"So you made out with some girl," she said, with a weak attempt at a cruel laugh, "and you want to get rid of me now."

"It's not that I want to get rid of you. I'd still like to see you, but as a friend." I could hear the word pierce her heart like a dagger, as it had my own heart so many times before I'd joined the community.

"But I love you."

How could she love me? She needed to go fuck a dozen other guys to get over her one-itis.

"I'm sorry," I said. And I was.

There is a downside to casual sex: Sometimes it stops being casual. People develop a desire for something more. And when one person's expectations don't match the other person's, then whoever holds the highest expectations suffers. There is no such thing as cheap sex. It always comes with a price.
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MY COMMENTS:

Neil, in a way, touches on value and working for someone here. Neil has more value for Isabel's life than Isabel has for Neil's life. And Isabel has worked harder for him (been more compliant for lower rewards, as per Vincent DiCarlo's Value/Compliance model) than he has for her. The two combined together means she feels she deserves him and is attracted to him - so of course it hurts. Many men that read this will understand how Isabel felt.

While it's not nearly as common for women to feel this pain as men, it does happen. She was attracted to him: Neil had value for Isabel's life, and she felt she deserved him (he was attainable because she had already been bedding him, she worked to get him by accepting terms she didn't like such as non-exclusivity).

Or I could be completely, totally off-base with my comments, and other stuff was going on.

Though I won't ruin the specifics, I'll let you know there is a happily-ever-after to this book, and Neil and Lisa do metaphorically ride off into the sunset together.

As for creating attraction in your own life, remember this formula:

Attraction = Value + Deservedness

Value is the value for her life. Cultivate the appearance of all universally attractive traits, and selectively demonstrate specific traits to specific women.

Deservedness is comprised of two elements. The first is attainability: If a woman thinks you are unattainable, her Auto-Rejection Mechanism will kick in. She'll blow you off so she doesn't feel hurt, and then backwards-rationalize it, halting attraction from growing and sometimes killing it all off. So you must let feel that you are potentially attainable. Conscious tactics for this include screening, qualifying, and making her feel like she has a special advantage. It can also be accomplished with looks and certain body language and tonality.

The second part of deservedness is the woman working to earn you, the cost/value conception. When someone works hard for something, they feel like it should be belong to them and it's to be prized. She'll feel like she deserves to be with you and she'll be attracted to you because of it.

Use these teachings wisely, friend. I documented some examples and you can see how negative emotions ran through some good people because of some missteps in attracting each other. These techniques can be a bit powerful and can mess with a woman's head, so do make sure to, as Neil puts it, not violate Ross Jeffries' only ethical rule of seduction: Leave her better than you found her.


Yours,
Sebastian Dimitri Drake
Swashbuckling Pick-Up Artist

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Gunwitch: The key to masculinity

Women are feminine, men are masculine. This can escape us all sometimes that this is basic first fact of what attracts women to men when we over complicate things.

If you have read my other materials you know I advocate sexual state as a state to project to women. You see when someone is dominated at a personality level they will attempt to match the state of the individual they feel "lesser" than.

Think of white women who hang out with "ghetto" black people. they match that state.

Masculinity itself as a state of being and personality trait can cause this same effect on women.

The right internal beliefs and mindsets are key for this: from my book,


THE MASCULINE MAN

We stripped you of all the negative conditionings and behaviors in the foundations section.

Now we must move past just not being ****ed up in the head, but actually “good in the head”. Attractive in mindset, not just neutral and natural, will be our goal in this lesson.

When stripped of your negative conditionings you are left with well, just a bit of character most times. Hence the need for the themes of conversation based on TV, music, movies, celebrities etc until you fill in the blanks with your own interesting stories lacking any negatives of conversation.

Negative conditionings are what we tend to be raised on and fed as our persona all our lives, so of course letting go of them kind of left you “neutral” in nature, good of course because neutral doesn’t **** things up like negative conditioning does.

But what is attractive to women? Aside from of course biological drive to have a penis inside them and the pleasurable friction such causes?

What is basic FIRST fact we are dealing with of WHO women **** and whom they don't?

Women are attracted to men. Masculinity, all that is a man, is what they are attracted to. Surely women by nature are attracted to what puts in, what moves forward, what dominates. As by nature women take in and are penetrated. Psych 101 there.

This that I am telling you isn’t very “women dominate men are losers” politically correct, but women’s of course first basic nature is to “take in” to submit, to be lead.

Notice if you will for a second as well that these “STRENGTH” and dominance-thinking women tend to be A. homosexual “butch” types or B. ugly females who are not catered to or pampered, they are not feminine, they are heavily lacking in femininity actually, so viola, the try to embody masculinity as their first character trait as a retaliation and to make it through the world easier.

Notice how the best-looking stereotypically/most feminine women lack dominance, masculinity and “toughness” of any kind. They have never needed it in any way as they have always been catered to and pampered.

When faced with any resemblance of masculinity/dominance/toughness, lacking the negative conversational frames of foundations section, such as talking about what I am right now heh, what do they do? They FOLLOW and bend their will and giggle and go girly. A good thing as this is part of her femininity you connect with when you get her feeling this way rather than neutral.

OF course this leads us to our next question.

What makes a man a man and woman a woman? To get the most attractive, most feminine of women surely we want to be what she is lacking to bring out what she is. A MAN. Masculine.

What makes a man a man besides a penis? That is the question that must be answered here to get a working strategy for your personality, your character your way of acting. Simple analysis of your ideals and what you are lacking and what you desire will help a lot, but a working strategy is needed for getting closer to this ideal.

Testosterone, Inner beliefs of a non-feminine nature, a view of the world based on being a male and how being that is perceived, maturity rather than adolescence. Certainly all these things make a man a man. A man isn't by nature “lame clueless loser who thinks he is less than a woman and therefore should be good passive little *****”.

Getting your **** together as a MALE:

What is your life? What is it? What do you do? Who have you become?

You go sit on a pad all day and type keys, or you sit on a telephone all day.

You eat a lunch of fried potatoes and seaweed flavored like beef wrapped in enriched whole flour.

What scares you daily as cavemen were?

You jerk off to other people having sex on a screen.

You go to the doctor if you find a mole you didn't see before and worry for a week.

You want women you are told to want, not what you lust for and most desire.

You worry what other people think of you in petty matters.

You wonder if you punched someone in the face if they'd just stand there and laugh at you?

This does not make for testosterone production or masculine behavior. These are not male behaviors.

This is not the lifestyle of a natural man. Cavemen got laid with little or no thought and they in no way engaged in the above behaviors.

Now I'm not going to tell you to quit your job, run off to the mountains and hunt your food with a spear. Though a month of that could do you wonders I guarantee.

Instead LIFT WEIGHTS. Labor and use of your body, release of endorphins and effects on testosterone, insulin, masculinity and too much to go in to here is DIRE.

You could take testosterone injections and end up with tits but working the WHOLE body will increase it naturally. People are not meant to be sedentary.

The last 50 years advances in labor saving machines and economic growth have taken a major toll on most men as natural masculine males. You do not have to build a ton of muscle or workout 5 days a week. Just LIFT SOMETHING other than bags of groceries and do it regularly this will increase testosterone.

Lifting weights will not make you a masculine macho man right off the bat by any means. This will at least start on your way to getting the chemicals in your body on the right track for a more masculine behavior base however.

Eat right. Well this isn't possible for most. But drink plenty of water and give an effort to lay off the white stuff though. Breads, pastas, rice, sugar and enriched flour are not natural for our system. I have been doing this WELL before any recent diet fads and it does work to keep fat off, eat enjoyable food and also to make you more vigorous.

This isn't some crackpot idea, the science backs it up that not eating these things will increase testosterone and natural balances in the body. So really they more restore them to NORMAL. Normal being when men were men, not overfed veal. Both eating right and lifting weights unless you have a weight problem already will keep you lean and attractive looking socially as well as biologically to women.


Take a risk man. Not even a REAL risk is needed, just get that ticker going now and again.

Get in a martial art where you will compete with other men or even have a game of hardcore rugby (more dangerous but just as good), or hell if you want go fight club and start fighting your buddies in the back yard.

Go sky diving, bungee jumping, go on a roller coaster, and go camping alone in the woods.

These kinds of things as well increase testosterone, fear creates it at biological and psychological levels, again too much to go in to at a chemical and psychological level.

Even better is that they have an immediate effect on your sense of self-being a man not a boy, an adventurer or warrior not a "technical support" or "student" guy.

Quit masturbating all the time PLEASE. Masturbating to porn was by far not natural or normal, common everyday male behavior up until 20 years ago or less. It still is not natural. Lack of orgasm tells your body it isn't mating, this causes increased testosterone levels to make you more aggressive in finding a mate. An orgasm with a woman on the other hand INCREASES testosterone levels from the excitement.

Masturbating will also negatively impact your level of persistence heavily as a side “bonus”. Of course when you masturbate you are not as horny and don’t want the sex as much. Not really wanting sex, as much, will make you say “ahh hell with it then” and not even try to get a connection at a conversation level.

If you do the things above, exercise; eat well, abstain from masturbation and do things that are challenging to you what good does it do? You are forming your “sun” by doing these things. More on this “sun” talk later.

Forming your sun isn’t enough to make you hyper attractive to women of course; you will also need your “body”. Not your physical body, far from it really. In this metaphor your body is what you think, what your core beliefs are. We wiped clean all those bull**** ways of thinking as a foundation; lets replace them with some powerful ones now to get you on your way to an advanced level of attraction with women.

The way you think is of major impact on what you are able to project ******ds in a congruent manner.

Here are some examples of the way a guy can think that make him more masculine, hence more attractive to women. Becoming “natural male” or “natural man” is the next step to being more attractive to women after becoming “neutral man” that followed “ conditioned male”

1: Natural mans picture of himself is not as a boy: Soft living and pampering, from womb to coffin we are given. We are saved when we need saving and listened to when we cry. Natural man doesn't have this perception. When he thinks "me" he doesn't think he is young or a child or a boy. He sees himself as a man. You are an adult a grown up.

Act accordingly. Don't be crying about ****, if somebody didn't ****ing drop dead don't be crying. Don't be hanging on women like they are your mothers. There are 500 of these children like behaviors, to many to list. Being aware of it in the first place is all it takes. Its called not being a ***** ass little boy. You get your "sun" these things don't happen as much anyways. Still be aware of thinking like a MAN and an adult, not something weak or helpless.

2: Other men are not superior to you. Natural man would have none of this. Get your sun in place and it'll come. To offend another man is to possibly have to fight. All it means to offend another man. SO WHAT. You don't giggle or even crack a smile when someone makes a joke at your expense, they don’t like that? TOO bad, you are MALE; you can and will compete for respect.

People used to like it when you made jokes about yourself? TOO bad, they'll get focused eye contact from you now, not jokes and you giggling at the floor. You aren't looking for trouble, but you aren't going to avoid it either less its REAL dangerous.

Even then, that gangbanger with the gun in his waistband who's house you ended up at for some reason might just shoot you for being a “little wimpy punk ass” in his eyes when you talk about "I'm such a tight ass square white boy".

You MUST KNOW that you wont giggle or be passive enough to get out of some biker bar where they have decided to strip you naked and drag you around the parking lot behind their motorcycles. Extreme sounding I know, but some guys are WAY too passive when they shouldn’t even be considering if someone would take kindness for weakness or not.

So be a MAN and don't “look for trouble” but also don’t try so damn hard to avoid it, when you do it makes you come off like an insignificant ant, especially while it’s happening. Natural man is no victim.


Thought 3: You don't take any **** from anyone with a smile. Usually you wont take any **** at all, but if you are backed in to a corner hands tied and your balls in a vice, you don't grin and bear it, you just bear it.

You do this because you have an imaginary audience. This life you are living is the movie, you are the main character. This life is no comedy; you take life seriously when serious situations arise. You are the leading man in every story. You only take the scripts that suit you. You MUST live up to this audience, your entire self is watching! Yeah the situation may pass with you no worse for it in body or health, you know this at an intellectual level.

YOU however are watching though, and every time you swallow the “**** you’s” life hands you without some amount of dignity and masculinity it takes a toll in how you see yourself and project yourself to others. Living in a passive or comedic or “I’m just the loser of the piece way”? Pffffffft. That's when you aren't so serious and are just making a cameo appearance as a big time leading man in some stupid comedy. Passing through.

4. Willpower is what natural man uses for almost every aspect of his life. Ask any woman this. Of any character trait what would be THE one that is most desirable? If it isn’t recommended they won’t say it, but they feel it at a very core level, the ability to manifest ones willpower when its needed is a very attractive thing. Women give up, women submit, women cry and beg when they are scared, women stop trying. Not ALL women ALWAYS in EVERYTHING, I’m not politically correct or feminist friendly but I know women do sometimes muster SOME willpower. In general though, meeting feminine women with strong willpower? Nope, doesn’t go hand in hand.

The naturally attractive male has this, and if mentioned any woman would put it first as what she “needs to complete” or “what’s attractive”.

Natural man can bust his ****ing ass and really bring the willpower to provide for his family in hard times.

Natural man doesn’t let his woman get felt up, maybe carried away and raped by a bigger stronger man, he gets the willpower up that says “I’ll TAKE IT instead cause I can hack it” and comes to her defense.

Natural man can wrestle that dog attacking his kids, HER kids, overcoming his fears by sheer willpower, and not roll up in a ball and go “ouch” while it bites off the kid’s testicles and his woman’s throat out.

Bit grim I know heh, but though something like this doesn’t happen often in reality at a psychological level it does when you get punked around.

Demonstrations of weakness affect the women you are involved with at a primal level. When you say “I quit that job cause it made my feet sore” she doesn’t think “me and my young starving to death”, but a certain something is lost in the way she thinks of you.

When she hears you say “job sucked but I did what I had to do until I could get in to something better” she doesn’t hear “good provider” but a certain level of “damn I wouldn’t have done that, this guys got something I don’t to bring to our “male-female table”” is felt.

5. Natural man is dominant. Maybe second only to willpower. Natural man just doesn’t look down first. Like when 2 sets of eyes meet, especially yours and hers.

Getting her in bed isn’t as simple as a trick like that, though the eye contact and who breaks it first is something to be mindful of.

Natural man isn’t afraid to fight, isn’t afraid to compete, isn’t afraid to tell someone else to shut the **** up, or quiet down in a movie theatre who wont quit talking.

There’s a reason “bad boy” or yard bird types are attractive to women, they have a strong dominance, combined with stupidity of course that says “I don’t care if I’ll go to prison I’m going to run this ****er off the road for flipping me the bird”. You only need the dominance part. Women don’t pay attention to the stupidity element in a positive way anyhow, unless it’s some roadpig biker skag or someone who goes for that sort of idiocy.

Most veteran police officers possess this dominance, some, though fewer and fewer these “Pussified” days, military men have it. Most any boxer you meet will have this. A HUGE recommendation I can make is get in boxing classes.

Dominance is what women lack most of ANY one trait aside from a penis. Again this course isn’t catering to feminist brain washings. Go research for a month and name 10 great female leaders of rebellions through dominance of troops and other powers, or hell even 10 female civil rights leaders. I will name 5 to 1 with NO research males who did the same thing or more.

None of the 50 I named would have been lacking in sex life, even FAR before they did their deeds.

Women have many many fine virtues. Ability to relate to others, reverse engineered thinking capacity, compassion, empathy. Roles have gotten reversed and tweaked out of balance though. No fate in my opinion, but genetically we are built for different tasks in this life.

Not knowing the roles has not only hurt men, but also women in that men aren’t men for them anymore. The most dominant and usually lesbian feminists didn’t just empower women to higher purposes than “cook and clean and make babies”, they also slipped in the agenda of taking all the men away at a mental level.

Natural man dominates with no concern of being seen as “a brute from the wrong time period”. Natural mans only concern when it comes to domination of others is his freedom (is it legal) and the greater good of all involved (if he is of ethics). Natural mans concern is not if “will the brain washed by feminists people think I’m trying to be a macho manly man”.

A macho manly man is something to aspire to be. Not something to fear being looked at as socially in a negative light. So natural man doesn’t cry for the children of poverty stricken Ethiopia, so natural man doesn’t read poetry or listen to folk music? He doesn’t give a ****, and knows because so many women want to **** him, those women only SAY they give a **** about such things in a man.

Women can find a sensitive new age sweater wearing candy and flowers hugs and kisses for babies guy in every suburban apartment and office building.

The natural man however, with a brain (not in a penitentiary), who can still be lighthearted in a normal conversation without being a tight ass or getting fiery or intense? Rare animal. THAT’S how you want to be unique for women, and in no other way.

From this "state", I "" state as it is more a personaltiy trait and lifestyle than a "state", is where you project sexual state as in my methods and get her to match you, hence become turned on, attraction achieved!

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